This Ken guy below me is an idiot and so are all those so called engineers that claim you get the same heat from any 1500 watt heater. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. Several EdenPURE heaters have been tested and compared against Lasko electric heaters. There was an ad/coupon in the Sunday paper and then I caught the informercial on tv and felt I had found a good thing. Press the space key then arrow keys to make a selection. So, for those looking for a way to reduce your bills, why don't you have your attic better insulated, replace your windows (if needed), and have a new heating unit or units installed, finance it all, and pay the extra on the payments instead of on the extra electricity you are using now. But, to satisfy the originator of this, no I would not buy another EdenPure. where is the savings plus spending $900.00 on the units. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. The same amount of air goes through. Ok Bob Yila lets stand behind your product and give me my money back now Do a cost comparison yourself. Bill Burr announced spring and summer North American dates for his Live Nation produced 2022 arena and amphitheater tour, Bill Burr (Slight Return), visiting 23 cities from April through August including Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse on April 23, 2022. So, that means 50,000 in insurance is going to cost that senior 500. a month. If you look at the stats, they use far more electricity..the ones I just looked at on the Green Site do and they are not inexpensive. I called customer service and they sent me a prepaid shipping label to return it and they sent me another one. Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. Also the heat is much nicer than baseboard heat- it feels warm and it stays comfortable. that I happen to agree with. ductwork loses a lot of energy if it is in unheated areas (your attic, your basement, etc.) How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? Since the same heater at Amazon is under $100 my guess is they lowered their price to compete better. 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. If you were to carefully cover up where air is coming into the hair dryer and feel the front it would get much hotter maybe still not as hot as the heat gun because it has built in overload protection and it will shut off by the time it gets that hot otherwise it might hurt some people. Ventilation Fans. Nice flat spot for debris. Because it works and dose save money especially if you have bad heating in your house. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 18, 2010: Joe T, I wrote this article after testing the EdenPURE heater. However, your actual price will depend largely on the size and type of heater you choose. This biographical article related to the United States military is a stub. My only issue is that the second year it started turning off all the time for no reason and now it's just sitting in my spare room doing nothing. Propane gas-burning fireplaces. Was informed that my order was not in the system as of yet, was instructed to call back after 24 hrs. How can heated ceramic plates absorb water? This has been disputed. Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. Zero marketing at that point. Oh, yes, and for the guy who said how can the ceramic remove moisture from the air, if you will look, there is only one model that is also a dehumidifyer, so it is both a heater PLUS a dehumidifyer. I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. Heat Pumps are the most cost saving product other than using a fireplace.The japanese use several heatpumps to heat their homes they use one system for living room another for bedrooms this helps lower energy bills. Claiming an electric heater will reduce your energy bill at all is stretching the truth. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. Asked store manager about the eden pure heater and when we looked online, the same 1500 watt unit is rated at the same 5000+ btu's. The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. I sent it back to get another heater, and GUESS WHAT IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. Talk about a rip off. But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. Its safer than most to. First is that your heating plant is grossly inefficient and that your heating ducts practically are routed outside the house to heat the outside before coming back inside. It is the wrong measurement for electric heat. State notices to consumers [affirm.com/licenses]. It claims to scrub the air in a 1000 cubic foot room. Second, it does not have any fan that blows hot air into your room, along with all dust and mites that you inhale, getting allergies and respiratory problems. Depending on how long you allow your electric heater to run during the colder winter months, you could see an increase in your electricity usage, along with a higher electricity bill. I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. I can prove that is nonsense in 3 seconds in my house. EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. Debra Breckenridge on September 20, 2011: I bought an Eden hearter last Dec. they sent me a RFH one it can to me in pieces they back cover was broken in several pieces. i.e. The laws of physics, which can't be changed, say they'll both do the same thing. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. Options depend on your purchase amount, and a down payment may be required. The cost was going to be $10,000. Heater vs. AC unit. I love it. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. When I phoned to know what the cost of a replacement bulb would be a year ago they said they did not have any except to put in new units being shipped which is why I waited til now to look into buying. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us Save 80 percent off EdenPUREs cost by using a competitors brand. Because an electric furnace needs to generate heat, it uses far more electricity than an air conditioning unit as it works to keep your home warm. Ads for EdenPURE portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent. I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. I borrowed a friends EdenPure 1000. Thanks for the good info that saved me. Construction Company. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Thank you guys for the info, I was just about to order an Eden Pure, uffff going to walmart to buy a Lasko or anything else like it. Heating water accounts for approximately 15 percent of a home's energy use. If the ceiling were 12', then the amount of air, 1200 cubic feet, would need heating. This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! This article will examine the claims made by EdenPUREs manufacturer and expose their lies. has anyone else had this problem and if so can you advise me? Mobile homes are really bad for heat loss. Complain all you want the heater works well. Even a child knows that hot air rises. Yes, you can buy heaters for less, but do you trust leaving them on during the night or when away from home. It does heat evenly. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. Actually, when the Eden uses that copper coil to absorb the heat they're actually deceasing the efficiency of the heater. Download PDF manuals for your EdenPURE product. Looked first at a $14.99 ceramic heater that uses 1500 watts and is rated at just over 5000 btu's. ft. All EdenPURE does is dress it up and jack the price to the stratosphere. dont buy this heater,if you live in California. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 13, 2011: Thanks for the comment, ritamarie. *** So the smaller heater will produce heat but others that I have tried burn the air. The newer model 1000XL is still$59.00. Your heating in the northern regions will typically average somewhere around $500/month. I used the Gen3 1000 last winter and it kept our living area comfortable. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. I'm very disapointed and feel very stupid that I did not google this until now. Have sent emails to their c/s area but they never respond. when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. No complaints at all. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. Those heated water molecules will warm the human body faster than air molecules. There is no combustion taking place in any electric heater, and no oxygen is being used. The clue is in the word personal . They said they could not do a refund because it was past the 60 days and I said I thought the 60 day thing was for the smart people that decided they didn't want it, not for a DEFECTIVE product of which I have received 2 in a row.Anyway they refused to refund my money so I guess I'm just stuck with this piece of junk. You cannot get more energy out of an electron than is in it. I called the company so I could exchane it but I have to pay shipping. Well it depends on what version you get. He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about "wanting to bury George W. Bush's Vietnam service record". Burkett's Heating & Cooling is a premier choice for professional HVAC services in Piqua and Sidney, OH, and surrounding areas. They basically cut our heating bills in half and keep us nice and warm during the cold Pennsylvania winter nights. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. Just picked one from trash. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. The machine shot out sparks. About the same. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! I live in a double wall 2500 sq ft log home (outside logs, insulation, inside logs). so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. I have 1250 sq ft upstairs and 1250 downstairs. This year, 2010, we noticed that the unit was not at all effective. I am not endorsing any unit of any other just telling my experience with this unit, so do what you will with my comment. i bought an eden pure heater for both myself and my elderly father and neither one will turn on after the first few times we used them with the screen flashing "not level" even though i used a level to verify they were sitting level .unfortunately this issue was not discovered until the start of the second year of use. they will endorse anything for a price . Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). Yes if i needed a safe heater and had the right place for them. The EdenPURE portable electric heater is a scam by my count. This is an electrical climate-control system which provides heat as well as refrigerated cooling. Go to the Home Depot, Lowe's, Cosco etc., and choose the heater out of couple of dozens designs they have there. Bigger homes and those in colder climates cost. However, the radiant barrier can't be sandwiched between two objects as the contact point transfers heat away quite nicely. Caveat emptor. He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about "wanting to bury George W. Bush's Vietnam service record". I purchaser 2 EP 2 years ago and they work fine in my 1900sq foot home.I bought them to stop those money grubbing gas companys.I read all you're complaints,and no one had the common sense to understand some people may just want to get the oil money suckers out of their lives. Which means you get 100% of what it cost you. I have gas heat but use this at night to warm my bedroom, rather than raise the thermostat to heat the whole house. For the guy who said to close off the rooms and the vents in those rooms, don't you know that can damage your central unit. If I spend less, good. Bob Vila gave two types of scenarios. In fact, I had to get up and turn down the heat later as I was sweating. Same reasons. My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. A radiant barrier works best in the attic. I will not call this a scam. I needed the one with electric thermostat but I did not get that. By not heating the unoccupied rooms of your home, you will cut your heating bill. But I'm sure they will be $94.80 two years from now. Signed Mad from South Dakota and hope there is some kind of class action suit taken against Eden Pure and their misleading clan. My personal choice - an oil-filled radiator, with the price tag of around $40 to $60. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. The filter is as overpriced and useless as the heater. Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. The family film tells the story of Bobby Burkett (Huffman), the quarterback for Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas, a small catholic high school. His school plays football in the shadow of North. Unfortunately, the Eden Pure ad does not lie. Whether you like the article or not - the simple fact is any cost savings you are seeing by using an Eden Pure heater is due to the use of "zone heating" I.e. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. A space heater with a linear source of infrared radiant energy in heat exchange relationship with a heat exchanger formed of copper or aluminum material. Again, it was ZONE heating and with a heat pump, like that was going to save me money. Unplugged edenpure. I've purchased similar heaters at Home Depot, in recent years, for about &10.00. ritamarie , you're wrong on so many levels. We have found that if you turn the heater on and just leave it alone, it really does a great job. Answer: A radiant barrier is a thin reflective fabric. If you read EdenPURE ads carefully, you will note they insinuate you only have to heat the room you are in. Water Heater Installation & Repair Service. Im just another sucker. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! The heater is a point source of heat. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! Its a different volume of air being heated for different applications. Thanks for pointing this out for those of us who are scam recognizably challenged. I see the infomercial all over DirecTV. I've had my EdenPure for over 10 years and it's still going strong. Still use the Edin pure in our basement vs, electric baseboard and it works fine. I am preparing to do that now. There are none so blind as those who will not see. I have purchased Eden pure heaters 1 is 2 years old and the fan motor is shot and one of the tubes is burned out. Actual energy savings from high efficiency water heaters depend on family size, heater location, and the size and placement of water pipes. It didn't work so i sent it back to BIO RESEARCH in ohio. As the . Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75.The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling . While at home he is not acting as an agent of the business so his actions were not in conflict with his duty of loyalty or notification. The memos, allegedly written in 1972 and 1973, were obtained by CBS News producer Mary Mapes and freelance journalist Michael Smith, from Lt. Col. Bill Burkett, a former US Army National Guard officer. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). You still need them. Her hair dryer moves much more air because of its use it moves hot air faster that doesnt mean its producing less heat over all. Then, if you read the contents, there is no coverage for the first TWO years. Dose the Edenpure save you money? It is great for days like today when the chill was just too much in the house, but it is not something you want to use consistently during the day and night. That was going to be a total of 5-6 zones. Answer: Virtually all electric space heaters at Amazon do the same heating job. What else can I do? If I was Bob Vila I would not put my name on the product if they cannot get anyone to anwser the customer service number or even return your calls. Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. That claim of a 20,000 bulb life in an Edenpure heater is completely false. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. For example, an oil based electric heaterit is convection only. If a company goes out of its way to rectify a customers complaint, it not only does away with the complaint but provides a more loyal customer than if the cause of the complaint had never happened. Bill Burkett. An electric heater is an electrical device that converts an electric current into heat. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 20, 2012: Ritamarie, thank you for the lengthy comment. F0r reference, 1000 hours is about 42 days of continuous run time. Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. FACT: Nonsense. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. The heating element inside every electric heater is . No more, no less. I called the order number 1-800-458-5614 and got someone and had to request a supervisor and it took a while but they got me one on the phone. My last post was cut off - 2) A btu is a btu 1500 watts is 5100 btu's .That is all you can put on a 120 volt 15 amp curcuit . Every one I talked to loves there eden pure I going to get one this weekend worth it. Gas pool heaters are rated by Btu (British thermal unit) output. *Rates from 0% APR or 10-30% APR. is way overpriced for what it does. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. You're a blind moron, since you started name calling, when I'm just trying to help people out. Cold in Northern Alberta on February 25, 2011: If you want negative comments about this heater , a simple Google search will fulfill your needs. [2] Fan heaters are the cheapest, but are often the least efficient and versatile. Some are made in China using cheap bulbs and some are made in the usa. As well as my cats! You have to have a control then you have to know all of the temperatures outside, the amount of insulation, the temps in the house, the furnace size and type (gas , electric, propane) how 'tight' the house is and several other factors. I will not buy an Eden Pure until they correct the post sale issues shown here. A UNIT is $1000. Stay warm everyone!! Oil heaters transfer heat by convection. That's common sense. It can be on all of the time or set it to the temp you want to keep it at. Why oil-filled? The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. A 1500-watt heater will produce at most 5000 BTUs. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. You get what you pay for, and many manufactured homes do not put the quality into their heating systems, ductowrk, etc. Perhaps another heater would work as well, but this one works real well. It is designed for heated or cooled air to go through only the vents of the zones you have on. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! One of the most important features and benefits of the Eden Pure vs one of the $50 that may heat the same space I would not trust most of those $50 heaters or anything that can be turned over easily and I certainly would never leave my home with one of those heaters on. ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. Most water heaters include a label listing the annual. In addition to that, the new windows, more insulation, more efficient unit(s) will reduce your electricity. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. Cellular shades can save you as much as 20% on your energy bill, too. I havent tried other heaters because Ive been satisfied. Electric heating is a process in which electrical energy is converted directly to heat energy at around 100% efficiency, [contradictory] using rather cheap devices. Get notified about new Tester jobs in Ranst, Flemish Region, Belgium.