Female trolls having breasts. So, you are saying I can't write about people who are not me? A subreddit for Homestuck and the works of Andrew Hussie. "umm that karkat is problematic? WebHomestuck is bad because the fandom makes it seem like Vriska genuanly got punishment for all the awful things she did by getting punched twice and feeling bad when in actuality she deserved to get killed off and never spoken about again. Every single one of those tags appears somewhere in the story, including but not limited to: unhealthy relationships, graphic depictions of violence, transphobia, rape, major character death, and (may God help us all) eggs. Such a cool set of powers that only works in something like Homestuck. If not for the fact they made her into a Jewish stereotype. The impressive thing is, these couldve easily just been throw-away, cheap, forced, gags. 164 Followers. With the source of his partial-paralysis being Vriska, he is tormented by her and others on occasion for his disability. It's pretty long. Following the incident, What Pumpkin, Hussies former Homestuck production company (which he has since left), threatened to sue Sarah Z. Johns relationship with Terezi, which really only existed in the last 50 pages of the comic, was apparently always the better option? The sexism accusations over the most passive class (Muse) being female. But Im not really sure Ive got much of a lowdown to give. "Queer Eye" star Karamo Brown recently told INSIDER that he thinks the beloved film about a gay relationship, " Call Me by Your Name ," is "problematic as f---." Below, Karkat (in the gray text) mocks Tavros (in the brown text). If it is morally wrong, I want explanations.). Come on, you disappoint. Ill give credit where credit is due, and then some. Although dogfighting is a felony in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, it continues to occur in every part of the country and in every type of community. This is that second one though. Why pick them out? The Homestuck Discord exists at https://discord.gg/homestuck if you want to chat with fellow fans. Rose and Roxy. And she decides what gets put in front of our eyes and what doesnt. No idea who that is, I covered incest above and I am 24, so what's your point? WebPhillip Faraone/Getty Images. Yet were given both to read. The 10,000 dollar donors for Hussie's kickstarter. And then they have a kid who she abuses. And then it turns out the game is like a universe reproductive system, with the win state being to make a new universe. But the comic you included in the docs is dumb and makes no sense to me. We have different media, slang, food, hobbies, etc, so Hussie's references soared straight over my head. hating her or not hating her and liking her as a character and oh my god can we please stop talking about Vriska). Granted, this panel also depicts the fact that Terezi uses a cane to walk around, which is realistichowever, we rarely ever it in regular interactions with her. According to multiple reports, many users of DISH network services are facing issues during the authentication or login process to the companys platform. However, back when HS was being written, it was OK to say the word. The self-ingratiating, self-referential, over-indulgent drivel that poured onto the page? If you actually read Hussie's tumblr about that incident, you would see that he specifically changed it not because people were upset about it but because other people on tumblr were using the canonicalization of tricksters as white to be nasty to others and he didn't want anything to do with that. But mainly I was relieved to see the protests happen, because it answered a more fundamental question I had before starting on this story, which was wondering whether the country had any real fight in it., And while the writer says he saw this nation-wide spark as a very positive development, he wondered if this was even a story that needed telling anymore., In the end, he decided it was. This applies to the treatment of Mituna, who due to the overexertion of his psychic powers received brain damage that altered his personality. Fanfiction that places Dirk and Kanaya in heterosexual pairings. On Twitter, creatives, journalists, and anyone with a modest following agonize over what people think they know about them online, and trolls regularly obsess over personal information around topics like mental health. (As he puts it, its about the things its about.) The story presents a modern path to revolution in which the catalyst for the overthrow of an imperialist system is not the military strongmen of old, but a young woman with social media savvy. Why St. Pauls sales tax hike proposal is problematic. Alternia, at least at first, is a dark joke about our real-world society. I cant put them on a scale from 1 to 10 and I cant recommend anyone read them or not. He didnt complete a draft until just a day before the first Black Lives Matter protests prompted by the murder of George Floyd at the hands of police officers in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Agreed. There are these four kids: John, Rose, Dave, and Jade. It's not Hussie approving of such activities. The character doesn't exist though, the author made them say it. Cyberduds. It's a violent as hell culture created for a single purpose: victory. They obviously "matured" when dead. WebDreamWorks. As it goes in the story, she was drunk driving, and after the cop gets physical with her, she grabs the gun from his holster and shoots. WebMuch of Problem Sleuth's success can be ascribed to an audience's willingness to accept that all the weirdness is just part of the joke, and the next logical step that we see in Homestuck, where the Internet itself becomes raw material for narrative, allows for an even greater expansion of possibilities. As are the characters. If you dont write often and consequently dont think of story length in terms of word count (what are you, a normal person? This is silly on a few levels. that is my mission, and that is why you can't fucking stand me. Or Faygo. First, Tavros Nitram is treated abhorrently in Homestuck; his disability (he is in a wheelchair, paralyzed from the waist down) is oftentimes depicted in a hilarious way to try and make the audience laugh. The Homestuck epilogues attempt to answer questions surrounding what canon is, and if the distinction between canon and Homestucks wealth of fanfiction is even significant to consider. MS Paint Adventures by Andrew Hussie. But, there is still no ETA for everything to work normally again. A weekly roundup of the best things from Polygon, By submitting your email, you agree to our, Andrew Hussie, the reluctant cult leader, on life after Homestuck, Sign up for the We really would be here all day if I summarized the story in earnest. I think one of the most impressive things about the webcomics music is how much of it there is (a lot of much there is, thats how much). So to that end I'd like to know what events caused the biggest splash with fans. Im going to pretend that sentence made sense, youre going to pretend I didnt just gloss over a ton of story development right there, and were all just going to move on. Webit has some stuff that aged poorly and is very typical of the comedy and internet culture at the time that it was written. I wrote in second person. But discussing inefficiencies and difficulties doesnt automatically translate to grumbling, but can be constructive and even strengthen bonds. So what fills that vacuum is rampant speculation. In addition to music, most pages at minimum combine text and images, but gifs and Adobe Flash animations are common. This can feel like mockery to some, and to some degree, it is but there is usually a point behind doing so. This doesn't excuse every instance, but Homestuck generally invites its readers to think critically about what's being said. I mean it is a book, so it technically is porn? At this point in the web-comic, they fix Tavros. And in this one Mituna himself just kind of sexually harrasses Meenah. As long as he is in a certain proximity of the storys events, he not only becomes the narrator (literally already been done), but the author himself, capable of willing events into the story simply by narrating them to himself. And thats not even touching anything a part of Homestucks spin-off game, Hiveswap. Pedophilia and incest in one fell swoop. They treat the characters of Friendsim and of Homestuck as though theyre all actual adults and write them like that, and just ignore the fact that theyre all like, 13-14 (and BARELY older if they are save for Chahut). And then theres genocide. Z decides to launch a new brand, and to rebrand her own image by making a clownsona, and then roll out new content to the public as a way of turning the page on whatever she was up to before. In Meat, like in pretty much the rest of the back half of the comic, shes in a coma, her body puppeteered by other characters. As the community got larger, and Hussie wanted more control of the story, this eventually petered out, which did distance some of the older problem sleuth fans. Some intentional, some not. He is best known as the creator of Homestuck, a multimedia webcomic presented in the style of a text-based graphical adventure game, as well as other works in a similar style that were hosted on Its tempting the ask which one is canon and which one isnt: but thinking the answer through makes you realize thats not much of a question at all. And then theres Cronus, a 19 year old, hitting on his dead descendant who is also 13. Cool post though :). WebMarch 3, 2023. I wouldnt be the snarky, nitpicking college kid with a blog if I didnt start that snarky nitpicking on Reddit and among fans complaining about, say, how retconning [S] Game Over totally ruined the emotional impact of the story up until that point. Yeah, I get it. Rufioh, dead 19 year old hitting on aradiabot, aka aradia as a permanent dead 13 year old. And thats about how Ive come to regard all fandoms now.. The "r-slur" being used is true. Pyscholonials isnt about Andrew Hussie and it isnt a Homestuck sequel. As far as controversies contained within the fandom go, there's only one big one that I can think of. Vriska. It seems selecting it will save you from having to look at this awful parody gag FOR ANOTHER GODDAMN SECOND. In fact, its this difference in writing style, more than any in-story actions, that drive the main thrust of the rivalry between these two. I expected good arguments and I see the same one used 3 times in a row. Just don't think it's safe for your thirteen-year-old brother just 'cause the protagonist is the same age xDD. But Homestuck wouldnt be Homestuck if not for Hussies tendency to add more when in doubt, so here we are. All tags have a real use in the text. If you are talking about, Karkat: hey asshole, stop playing games for girls, then I see it differently from you. Point 1.5: Many of the arguments presented in the document hinge on the idea that inclusion means approval (see Point 1). I am pretty sure you weren't meant to like her doing that. but the stance that critical enjoyment is impossible because of those aspects that don't look good today is pretty flawed. A hole in plot, if you will. Homestuck itself. Still, Hussie doesnt think every aspect of fandom is completely horrible. Some forms like writing fanfiction or creating fan art are a positive, fun activity. And then one of the four kids, John, gains the ability to rewrite the comic itself. Still, he said that the text works as a thematic followup to his entire experience with building a fandom. This is basically what I did, and these two ideas mix together in the narrative., Prior to releasing this story, Hussie struggled to pinpoint what his brand was as the creator of Homestuck. The Meat author, portrayed here by Dirk, is hyper-focused on moving the plot forward. About number 12, according to ARquiussprite, they are there for some reason. This is just a single example of how bootleg items (because yes, even if they're being made with love and sold with respect for the original creator, they are bootleg items) can directly influence a small business' decisions and bottom line. Oh, and all troll sex is incest by human standards. The implosion of Silvergate Bank has a lot to do with the fact that it was crypto's bank of choice. In my case, that thing I tried to copy when I started out was Homestuck. Jake sees Jane and asks her if she is alright, and Jane responds by saying: "I FEEL SO CAUCASIAN". This one seems more like a short story than opinion dressed up like hard-hitting analysis, but maybe it will make for a welcome change of pace. And thats always something worth giving credit for, in my book. Thats no way to handle an issue like this. I like my complaints like I like my inception, always going one level deeper. I just had no idea until you told me just now. At the end of Candy, Calliope declares that Dirk must be stopped because unlike her, he introduces bias to the narrative. Something went wrong. There are some aspects of Homestuck that deserve a deeper analysis and deconstruction than I can give here. Theres a problem with activations getting backed up, & stuck in our system. Hussie initially spoke to Polygon before the Sarah Z video, but agreed to follow up conversations after its release. But Hussie questions those practices as a form of fandom, and redefines what the word really means today. (But please, don't jsut say that "it's morally wrong" and then not explain how. It is problematic in that it presents characters with unlikeable traits in a positive light, problematic in the way it jokes about very serious subjects like abuse and murder, problematic in that it includes discriminatory language throughout the text, problematic in that oodles of teased ships are 'creepy' due to the age and/or percieved age and/or other factors Problematic like The Iliad, like Hannibal, like The Wire, like, The Shining, Lolita, Dracula, and so many other pieces of classic media. Apparently some things Hussie produced in the past were fairly misogynistic/racist, and there's some debate over what Hussie's current opinions are. Some of my other favorites among Homestucks ten main albums and many more side-releases include Unite Synchronization, Derse Dreamers, I Dont Want to Miss A Thing, At the Price of Oblivion, and Showtime. Then again, depending on the atmosphere of any given moment in fandom, there may be at least as many simps projecting absurd deification fantasises on the leader.. Homestuck feels like a glorified, expensive, vaguely ornery version of my childhood game. ships, god tier classpect theories, and vriska seem to be the biggest controversies. So, Hussie himself condradicted well, himself. and the other half is him being completely oblivious to what the original poster means. He who is without sin may cast the first stone. Ever heard of that? The creative director and lead script writer for Hiveswap, literally ships dersecest as stated in his interview. Like how Vriska, a character who spent the entire comic inserting herself into important story events in a quest to become the most important character of the narrative, ends up trapped in Candy, locked away forever from canon. This is not so much directed at you, fiveforchaos, but since this sort of misconception comes up frequently I figured I might as well step in. How to read Homestuck I know that Im asking questions, and sometimes thats good enough. Hes not. In Meat, the story blasts through at a lightning pace, but the characters we love get thrown into the background as the story concerns itself more and more with Dirk and Calliope. I know there are more, I'll update this list when I remember them. In some ways this was prompted Hussie took fan input while writing the original story and incorporated it into the final product. Dedicated fans even created a browser extension that notified you the moment new Homestuck content went up. They both exist. Please explain. Its digitally illustrated and lets you click through like you would in a narrative game. Vriska herself is a huge controversy (i.e. DISH network users facing authentication or login issues. I don't think writing off Hussie as a person for his work is at all fair. I asked Hussie if he thinks everyone should just log off. Yes it is. Why? Maybe because Hussie doesn't actually speak English? In this sense, fandom itself, with examples like Homestuck, was the precursor to the asymmetrical relationships that have come to characterize so much of online life. Albeit, important, weighty fanfiction elevated by the very fact they exist on homestuck.com and not on myI mean someonesGoogle Docs account locked away somewhere, but fanfiction nonetheless. Do trolls even have races? Okay, geez! I appreciate OP for trying to throw stuff like this back in the face of the people who make it because seriously. Why dont people who make posts like the original maker of that dig through their own garbage and get on their own case for the stupid stuff they did in the past? Theres the aforementioned not-finishing-the-story-ness I talked about earlier. The very same iteration of Vriska that is also 13. The mysteries. Turns out you cant just kill your entire cast and replace them with slightly different versions of the same characters we havent really had the chance to know. TSP problem is a classical problem since 1832 [from wiki]. Also feel free to send me ideas of things youd like me to cover! Secondly, much of what the document draws attention to are things criticised within the text. Both options ultimately leave someone somewhere dissatisfied. WebPoint 1: Homestuck is 'problematic' in the way that many people are beginning to dislike. Anarchist. Dividend Yield. Half of his comments are "N-NO, YOU?" Is this. Submit fanart, cosplay and discussions of all kinds! There exists a possibility of me being a pizza. Dividend Yield. These Fraymotifs stack when two characters use their own powers to create something new and even stronger, similar to how each characters leitmotif stacks in the music of the comic to bring the reader to higher story beats. In real life, if they have the option to choose their rate of fire, professionals like to stick to single-fire mode. But maybe that's just my take. But, there is still no ETA for everything to work normally again. It is problematic in that it presents characters with unlikeable traits in a positive light, problematic in the way it jokes about very serious subjects like abuse and murder, Calliope isnt an unbiased narrator. Also, others tormented Tavros as well? When Homestuck was going through the Trickster Arc in Act 6 Act 5 Act 2, there was a conversation between Jake and Jane just after Jane went into Trickster Mode, and just before Jake went into it. But I am going to assume you mean the timeline Davesprite came from. I can only say that theyre interesting to consider if you happened to have read them. Here's a post discussing it. Sure, I guess. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, "Hussie is terrible because of recent incidents like the released emails between the moderation team and him". I don't really care and didn't know about this before I skimmed this but you seriously didn't notice Meenah and HIC talked stereotypically black? Like, I didnt even mention how many of these fuckers die along the way. While the kickstarter itself was controversial due to how much money it raised, despite Hussie having never made a game before. Not every country has black stereotypes that are the same. So its not that Im saying fandom is all bad, instead Id just say that the appearance of anything positive about fandom should be treated with suspicion, and as if it could become destructive at any moment for any reason. Having read the comic I plan to cover the humor and the format, as well as the relationship between Hussie and the fandom pretty extensively. Take later. A quick search on Reddit reveals dozens of threads discussing questions like What happened to andrew hussie? and other posts tracking the creators activity on social media platforms like Tumblr. WebThe plot of Homestuck is infamously convoluted but boils down to: four kids who know each other online play a video game together, inadvertently causing the apocalypse. Sure, each panel is a webpage connected by links, but almost every panel only has one link, and thats to the next panel. And the world ends. This process, known as review-bombing, has been used for both good and bad causes. Rather than experiencing outright suffering due to ableism, as Tavros does, the depiction of Terezis character is ableist without being as blatantly so. Defending? The SFW hes the stereotype of a transman. Its at this point that the epilogues diverge into two: a Meat timeline for the former and a Candy timeline for the latter. why you lookiing at my flaiir. 13. Good job. Hi. No one considered it a slur yet. In the spirit of using the Internet as a medium, the epilogues were released in the style of an AO3 post. Because automatic fire is inaccurate. Heck, people are still debating troll genitalia). Oops. My praise of Homestucks music is really part of another thing I like about the comic. No Disney-style moral to repeat to your children. The fact that Homestuck isn't an anime makes them unpopular at anime conventions, despite things like video game and doctor who costumes being accepted in part because WebKate Mitchell. Her "whole deal is being a lesbian"? Dirk is Homestucks ultimate villain. She takes her time, narrating with a kind of dry, verbose voice. Copyright issues; unlike many, more mainstream content producers who kind of give convention artists alleys the big shrugaroo, Hussie, as a small buisness owner, is very strict about people selling fanmade Homestuck content.