I was really looking at the Waypoint before so would you recommend that now or another? Unlocking the Momentums bolt took more effort than a typical Remington 700. But I cant understand why offering left handed guns seems impossible to some manufacturers. i would like to buy new as its going to be my first rifle so thought with mod . Interested in loading this cartridge. A fairly vertical pistol grip offers comfortable control from most any shooting position. Ive been pouring over your channels videos, and a lot of Ron Spomers content (as well as a few others for the past months). People harp on me for recommending the Weatherby Vanguard because its essentially the same thing as a Howa 1500, but costs more money. Just curious, have you had a chance to review the Benelli Lupo. So how do you choose between them? I used to hunt as a kid. If a person is willing to invest the money; would you recommend the reaper above all else for a do it all hunting rifle? Obscenely lightweight. Hello Jim, great article. Since recording the review of the Sig Cross, my copy of the gun did develop the issue with the safety where it doesnt quite go to the correct position. Or even at a much higher price range. Vlad is typical progtard. Im at a point that I can spend $1500+ for a hunting rifle. The muzzle break sends recoil back into the rifle which breaks cheap scopes . First of all, LOVE all of your video reviews !! If you want a wood stock, metal parts, and nice bluing, feel free to spend an extra $300 or more on a Ruger Hawkeye or similar. The reason I am more interested in an AR instead of a bolt action is because: I would like to have an adjustable stock for hunting in multi layers of clothing and backpack straps, the need to adjust my length of pull is important. I try to ruin stuff like this and am always amazed how much it will take. Have you reviewed the werkman? Both have 3 lug bolts with the lugs integral with the rest of the bolt body 3. Boy, so many good 7 mags. Thank you. They do have a more expensive option for a titanium action that is even lighter, but I feel the titanium actions just arent as smooth in the hand. Just easier to carry in hand, never a sling. Im really down to the Fierce Carbon Rival vs the Weatherby MarkV Backcountry. Manual cover also says- Do not use without reading Manual. Review: Franchi Momentum .308 Winchester. I have been looking for a carbon barrel rifle in a .308 due to ammo availability. The Tikka T3x has a single-column detachable clip magazine made from a strong fiberglass-reinforced composition. I appreciate your knowledge and insight. So Id recommend just paying for it online. I wanted to get into deer/large game hunting while trying to stick with one gun for all animals (deer to elk) and I live in northeast South Dakota. I think in theory controlled feed is better, but they also generally dont feed well (or at all) if you try to feed by dropping one in, rather than mag feeding. Sako has major problems with there stocks , I have owned several finnlight 85s and the stock will get sticky , Its not if its when , Sako will not do anything about this issue , They blame it on det in insect spray , I had one still in the box that got sticky and they didnt have an answer for that , You can read about this issue online its everywhere , Browning took care of this problem when they had this issue , I will never buy another sako for this reason , Do your research before buying one. The pistol grip is thicker than on many similar stocks, which I appreciate a lot, but at the same time a little more palm swell wouldnt hurt. Good read. Keep the good work buddy on your show. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE 6.5 CREEDMOOR 24" 3RD BOLT RIFLE - REALTREE EXCAPE / BURNT BRONZE True Price: $ 813.69. I dont know even they even sell it anymore but about 10-15 years ago my first .308 was a mossberg ATR. I am finally biting the bullet and having a custom gun made. Never bother with a Winchester M70, because I thought it was old fashion. Savage just came out with a Savage 110 carbon predator. I own 30-06, i own a 300 win mag , now never pull anything out but the 300 win mag , it is a Browning A bolt with the belly clip , has the sweet spot muzzle break ,that takes care of half of the recoil and have the Remington butt pad . Looks great. Would this interest you? Same for Austria and Glock. Can you, or have you already, done a review on the Bergara Premier Divide ? Watch my review here. LOL. Seems like a lot of bang for the buck. More velocity with the heavier bullets which by the way do not work so well in the 6.5 Creedmore. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .223 Rem 18" 1:8" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41751. I know its very high end but with a replaced hip and knee, I want anchored shots and believe that cartridge is a slight upgrade on the venerable 300WM. Mine is in 223 for chucks. If youre going to buy a Ruger American, know there are dozens of different configurations available. I dont own one. Great rifle. Jim, Love your channel and have spent most likely 30 plus hours reviewing your videos. I personally prefer the Bergara B-14 Ridge, but they are all good options. There are many rifles above the $2k price point. Your email address will not be published. And true to their ads, it is a sub-MOA shooter. bolt throw. Wont win any extra points for its weight but seems like a quality affordable and very accurate rifle. Travis Skurray from Australia. Problem with the Savage 110 ultralight is the plastic magazine. You should always spend your hard earned money on what *you* like, but the Franchi stock strikes me as an example of what the late Chuck Hawks called "Euro trash.". The stock looks like a varmint/tactical/long range/hunting compromise, and may do those thing well, its just not what I was looking for. While I believe theyve succeeded in creating a stock that accommodates many different shooting positions and feels above average in all, it doesnt necessary excel in any of them. Threaded barrel for a brake. 2. have a metal finish at the trigger-guard, The Franchi Momentum Elite Bolt-Action Rifle also has a 1-piece 1913 Picatinny rail that permits flexible accommodation of various aftermarket optics. YOU SHOULD TEST THE SAKO S20 in 6.5 PRC OR THE SAKO BRANDS. There are a few really nice ergonomic details that Franchi has implemented on their stocks. Jim love your channel. Why would anyone purchase a rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor when 7mm-08 will do everything the 6.5 can but with a bigger bullet, flatter trajectory, and comparable wind drift at typical hunting ranges? The only competitor would be a full custom on the amazing MDT HNT 26 chassis. Would love to see your review on the Australian built Lithgow if you havent fired one yet I am sure you will be blown away by it in build quality, accuracy and value considering we are paying $900 for rifles worth $350 in America. Indeed, the Momentums bolt only travels 60 degrees from fully open to fully locked and vice-versa, whereas your typical 2-lug job requires a 90-degree throw. can you give me your thoughts on I loved the way it shot and felt. I own the X-Bolt in 7mm Magnum and it is fantastic. This rifle broke two scopes I highly recommend the Leupold which I have on it now .team this up with the Barnes TTPX BT. I am from Canada- and watching your channel for quite a time. There is a nice Bavarian Sako but theres isnt much data on accuracy on the range with a scope. I mean, I realize you use supersonic ammunition and would have liked to have heard how home-rolled subsonic ammo performed. Moving back-to-front, things start out with a cushy rubber recoil pad. Fierce Reaper I just love it so much. You have probably heard this before but I am not really a hunter, at least not yet. Can you do a in-depth comparison review of the CVA Cascade vs. Ruger American? Hi Jim It was raffled, gave winner 450 hoping to thrd and add brake but barrel too thin. Wow, what a shooter! Is it ever gonna happen or should I just buy a 6.5 prc? Affordable? They need to get their stuff together first. 5. I\ve been looking at a lot of your reviews and videos and am wondering if 7mm rem mag might be the best option for a cartridge. The action quality, as well as the barrel, produces a very accurate rifle. Fun to read through this after watching all the vids. This gun is very accurate, has a great bump pad to absorb recoil (unlike most wood rifles) and has a threaded barrel for good measure. Franchi Momentum .300 Win Mag 24" Black / Hunter Gray 4 Rds 41553. (Great videos by the way!!). If you had a choice between XBolt Pro & Dako finnlight 85 in 300wm what one would you choose. Took my buck at 325 shooting Federal Premium 110gr bullets. Forearm checkering extends nearly all the way forward, ending just short of another molded-in and recessed sling swivel mount. Bergara B14 Hunter? Server Time: 2023-01-16 08:20:56 UTC Man I really love your reviews! unloaded and 46.7 . Delsin Rowe is the main protagonist and playable character, a young Native-American man who later realizes hes a Conduit with special powers. And based on my limited sample size, this budget rifle seems to prefer budget ammo. Best 5 shot group was .320 so I wouldnt knock the compass for a budget rifle. You mention that you felt the Browning X-Bolt Pro was not a good fit for a heavy recoil gun. There are a few really nice ergonomic details that Franchi has implemented on their stocks. It doesnt snag or grab clothes but somehow its still plenty soft and grippy. Yes please, there is a major lack of opinions out there on the LUPO. Id love to hear if the model 70 is still relevant. Regardless, they should have went with a flush mount magazine like the Axis which, if I may add sells new for a third of the Momentums MSRP in my part of the world. If youre into Italian and youre into affordable, but you still want some Ferrari performance at the Fiat price, Franchis Momentum delivers the goods. What matters is on the paper for 550 dollars and a threaded barrel to boot. Franchi Momentum .350 Legend Threaded 24" Bbl FDE BA Rifle 41562. Great Content. These areas are designed to provide purchase and ergonomic grip options for different shooting positions and styles, such as the five seen above. It is a three lug 60 deg. So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). I want a lightweight rifle that has mild Recoil with ballistics similar to 270 Winchester but in a short action. Simply depress the rear of it while sliding the bolt out the back of the receiver. 1) the quality from rifle to rifle You mentioned it once but I cant find a video where you review it? It is very expensive. On the range, the Franchi Momentum Elite Varmint is a bit larger and heavier compared to some of the thinner and shorter barreled Momentum rifles, coming in at 9 lbs., 6.4 ozs. The Sig Cross is the rifle that I have consistently used more than any other hunting rifle in my gun vault. In our testing, the Weatherby Vanguard shot the most accurately, although the difference between it, the Bergara and the Tikka was so small that I doubt we could call it statistically significant. Glad that rifle is a shooter. Thank you for your great videos especially on moderately priced optics and arms. Yes your quite right on that and its sad that the majority of hunters never bother to educate themselves in regards to the plethora of 6.5 mm cartridges invented over the years. Premium recoil pad, pic rail, fluted barrel, muzzle breakMOA guaranteed accuracy like the Tikka. The Carbon Predator looks cool, but really just a slight variation on the 110 ultralite. Cannot find the Federal rounds anymore so Shooting the Hornady Precision Hunter 110s now. Im in the market for my very first rifle and I have been eying up the Weatherby Vanguard ever since I saw you pick it. Ill use my customized REM 700 in 300 win mag for elk. My concern is that with your test, the vanguard with a #2 profile barrel threw shot #5 basically everytime. I would also love a video on the Winchester model 70 extreme weather! The molded-in checkering is clean and sharp but in no way uncomfortable. As did locking it. Pretty typical for a synthetic-stocked, budget-oriented hunting rifle. Hornady Precision hunter was working well in mine. Wish you wouldve done a review on Mauser 18 or sauer 100 as I became interested in those two guns and did ultimately pick up a Mauser this year based on some other reviews. Specifications: Franchi Momentum in .308 Caliber: .308 Winchester (available in five other calibers, too) Capacity: 4+1 Barrel Length: 22 inches Twist Rate: 1:11 Overall Length: 42.3 inches Length of Pull: 14 inches (adjustable with spacers) Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage Weight: 6.6 pounds MSRP: $609 ( about $450 retail) From afar it looks pretty standard, but it does set itself apart in a few ways. Thank you for your time and effort. Take your pick but you get a super reliable gun and if you ever broke an extractor or firing pin you can change them out right in the field within minutes. Base Price: $816.99: Tax: - In Stock: Back in stock . Its an expensive gun but Ive been hearing good things. Its like saying 300 Blackout isnt as effective as 300 WinMag. I would love to hear your thoughts on the savage impulse big game. Just how it shot when the time came. I understood going into it that it was a boutique and emotionally motivated cartridge choice, but the performance and build quality is excellent. We hunt in northern Utah. The 300 win mag barrel twist is a little slow, but if you arent going to handload, it should shoot up the 200 grain bullets in factory Ammo just fine. Thanks for the content you put out! November 29, 2018 By Steve Gash. Im extremely satisfied with this rifle, for a hunting rifle. I found not too long ago a Husqvarna Mauser for $400 bucks in like new condition. Stock: AG Composites Alpine Hunter. Thanks for your thoughts and time! I have played with many of the rifles you have. Would like a rifle that print a sub MOA with factory ammo. But 300 WinMag doesnt fit in an AR15 and 6.5 Swede doesnt fit in a short action. A little heavier than the cross but the little feedback Ive seen has been good. I used to not care about if the bolt locked on safe but after a walk in the woods of ND with a Ruger American and the bolt falling out, to not be recovered on the opener, I now only have guns that lock the bolt on safe. Question. Some day Ill give one a more fair look. I ended up buying a Bergara Mountain 2.0, which checked all the boxes for me as a hunting rifle. I took it back to Scheels and the guys said its the second time someone has brought one back with that issue in a week. Keep up the good work! Seems like a solid gun for the money and straight pull seems fun. Accuracy * * * * * 80lbs maybe. My 2 favorite calibers are 270( I have 6 of them) and 300H&H ( one pre 64 Winchester Model 70 and one Cooper). In this day and age, there is really no reason to not have a removable magazine that you could top load also. On the flip side, a 60-degree throw is often not always, but usually stiffer, and this was the case here. If you are looking at that sub $1000 rifle check out the Bergara Wilderness Ridge (Mine was $850). and the weathermark? FRUSTRATING. As you can see I am a gun collector and have not used my 7 mm Mag. Thoughts? My 6.5 CM shoots sub MOA groups. Newer is not always better. I went ahead and ordered a scope today, I had a leupold vx5 3x15 and sent it back, and today I ordered a Burris Signature HD 3x15, so I will see how they compare. Love the guns review vid on ones under $500 and everything else! BTW unless youre reloading, the vast majority of factory 6.5 Creedmoor is quite a bit faster than the same projectile in 6.555. The reason I put the CVA Cascade above the Ruger American is: (1) It has a better action with more reliable feeding, (2) Its stock is more rigid, (3) It doesnt have a super loud safety like the Ruger American, which I found to be tricky to hunt with. Franchi, a 150-year-old shotgun manufacturer, clearly felt it was high time an affordable Italian hunting rifle hit U.S. shores. I like the Sig Cross because its lightweight, easily adjustable to fit me or my kids, very accurate, and the short barrel and folding stock make it easily packable for hunts. Any information is greatly appreciated. The trigger is heavy, but thats true on the Browning XBolts as well. And all the great work you do! I also have ignored the Winchester M70 for exactly the reason you mentioned. Id go with the Sako in that case. There are very few reviews and almost zero information about how the Howa carbon shoots. Thank you, October 15 2022 Christiansen Arms Traverse, 28 Nos. Jim, any thoughts on the Venture 2 from TC? However, as Ive owned the Sig Cross for almost a year now, Im surprised by how frequently its the gun I reach for in the safe. Price points on the ammo dont put them too far apart when searching on Ammoseek, usually within 5 bucks a box depending upon brand. The SIG Cross would be a best second choice. So where are you from originally and where are you now..Im thinking not the US. I like the straight comb with minimal drop and I found the cheek weld comfortable. Thanks for the info , it will certainly help those with no interest in spending too much to have a good rifle. Id like to see a comparison between all the weather resistant advertised rifles, quality of weather protection materials, pros and cons of the different coatings or metals. At the back of the bolt shroud, the firing pin protrudes to show cocked status (as seen above) and is flush with the rear of the bolt shroud when not cocked. They are built in the same factory where they produce Mauser and Blaser rifles (all owned by the same company), so I guess quality shouldnt be an issue but unlike Mausers and Blasers, these rifles are far less expensive. Pls recommend as I need a rifle under 1500 $ including Scope for shooting upto 600 Yards with cheaper ammo to practice more. Bergara seems to have just come out with a Walnut stock maybe as a result of one of you comparing their stocks to garage floors??? Most of the great rifles youve taken time to make us salivate for do not make left handed models. The stock is not very rigid, the butt pad is too stiff, and the stock geometry is only acceptable. But the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell , quoteBut the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell quote. Made in Italy? Like you I love the idea of the cerakote on it and I think a stiffer stock lends itself to shooters well. Vald, I love me some harbor freight. A junk dull blue finish, it would have costed them too much to put a decent high gloss bluing on it. Great comment, Frank. Mr. Harmer, I really appreciate your reviews on the Sig Cross and Waypoint. An XBolt in 6.8 Western may be a great option. what makes it a Bergara? Christensen needs to improve its quality control in my opinion. Is yours that picky? Do you think this is normal business practice ? And youre right about the cost of Weatherby ammo. 1 Image (s) Franchi Momentum Elite 6.5 Creed Realtree Excape 24" TB Burnt Bronze 41606. The need for fast follow up shots, I know with practice a bolt action is fast, but I also dont want to break my right hand grip on the gun and trigger. Great review. Of all the rifles I own, if you just said Grab a rifle and go hunting without any more specifics of where Id be hunting or what Id be hunting, Id grab that rifle. Hello I love your videos and your reviews the only comment I have is that the savage 110 ultralite does not have the accustock. I have narrowed my next purchase down to those two. However, Ill simply leave this anecdote. Love your content man, great job building the channel and the webpage. NO, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Italy, F Franchi, and Baretta and their ilk. 1 is the Footprint for the Action is proprietary, It is NOT made by Bergara. stock not sticky yet? Excellent in every way but its expensive. In this price range, this rifle appears to be a very good value. The Weatherby Vanguard comes in several different editions. Id love to give one a good in-depth review, but I havent yet. Any thoughts. Also 243win, 270 win, 300 win mag and 30-06. What about the Winchester Model 70? Those that do could at least be highlighted. Action is very heavy and clunky. Do you have any experience with the Franchi? Will be used mostly for white tail and hogs in Texas. Most people hide their plasticky pieces of shit from their friends if their friends are the old foxes who know what a real gun is. A 60 degree bolt lift that makes second fast shots from the shoulder a complete impossibility. Thanks Jim Harmer, great video and data to follow. Can't see enough difference to make a difference. Been following your channel for a few years and have loved all the reviews. That said, the polymer quality and stiffness are better than many. Im sold on the 7mm-08 for hunting but am having a hard time deciding/finding a decent rifle chambered in that caliber. Luckily I was at a store on vacation that let me handle both. I cant say I love the idea of a polymer sling mount with a relatively thin wall to it, but its definitely more out-of-the-way than a protruding stud. However, Ruger American rifles are not perfect. With a Leupold VX-2 3-9x40 scope mounted on Leupold dual dovetail rings and loaded with a maximum of five rounds of ammunition, the Momentum I tested weighed almost exactly eight poundslight enough to carry on long hikes through steep country but not unpleasant to shoot. So it is not a 700 rem action like the Bergara, So no MDT chassis at this time to match. Your reviews and articles are very helpful for us folks that dont have a big gun shop within 150 miles! Likely sub-half-MOA. The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. Thanks! I think I will try to pick one up next week, in either a .308 or .300. Good luck wearing one out with your old ass, you could have the best or worst and it wouldnt matter since its seeing all of a day of use once a season. In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. Slim Fit Leather Jackets brings this iconic jacket from animation to reality, especially for all the fans of this video game. I have been taking in everyone of ur vids I can find and sincerely appreciate your work and am interested in your take on the Seekins product? Specifically, I am looking at 300 PRC and .28 Nolser, or 300 Weatherby Magnum. This gun is for actually hunting in adverse conditions and not worrying about scratching it or damage. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned I\m also looking at the Seekins Havak PH2? How is it Franchis fault again? A very accurate danish produced rifle. Thanks. Alpha? Im surprised it didnt make the list. Yes if I were going to Alaska where you can run into damp rainy weather for days on end I would either have my Mauser electrolysis nickle plated (it plates even the inside of a receiver and barrel) or if I wanted to get off cheap take a chance on a modern stainless rifle that probably would freeze up in very cold weather with their speed lock mechanisms which are idiotic in a hunting rifle. it seems well priced at about 600. I use Swaro and Zeiss optics and i use moderators on all of mine. ISO: 20ga (semi-auto, sxs, and o/u in order of priority), Recommendation for a tarp for my pack - mostly going to use to put quarters on but, FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. Premium recoil pad, pic rail, fluted barrel, muzzle break.MOA guaranteed accuracy like the Tikka. enough shoulder for secure mounting. Jim, If you go slow while trying to be quiet in a hunting situation, it may not feed right. Overall * * * * some of us realize we would be charged a certain premium. And like most of the rest of the world for that matter. I just cant keep myself from grabbing the Sig Cross. It shoots some factory ammo sub moa as advertised but has been and uphill battle to get hand loaded 88grn eldm's to group consistent. Im not sure why Bergarra and other premium manufacturers dont do this but Im sure theres a reason. Kimber Mountain Ascent Subalpine I just dont like the Kimber Mountain Ascent. I have 13 riffles in calibers from 7mm08 , 270 ( my favorite caliber), 300H&H and 300 WM and 300WSM in Weatherby Mark V and Vanguard, Sako, Tika, Winchester model 70 pre 64 and new one, Kleingunther, Browning Xbolt, Browning medallion, BAR in 270 and 300 WM, 7mmMag in Weatherby Vanguard and Sako composite, Bennelli Lupo in 270. I had a Waypoint 2020 6.5 PRC on order for a long while- when one finally showed up and I was able to handle it, I just could not warm up to it. The Howa is around $200-$300 cheaper than the Savage. I wanted to get a Bolt Action rifle for hunting and also had always wanted an AR style rifle too. Can you review the spring kit for the factory trigger? Those all sound like good options. It might be Franchi just trying to stay ahead of magazine restrictions in some (less free) parts of the world. I can be an affiliate for just about any gun brand, so it doesnt impact my recommendations. Could you add another tier or two? The Elite Varmint, introduced last year, should readily . Even though Im happy with my decision, the Ultralite might have been the better way to go. The scope I bought is a Sea Adler, 3x9x40. Hey Jim, your videos are great not only on rifles, but optics too. Non custom rifles are often a hit or miss affair. What do you think? I really like the sig cross but I cant decide between 308 or 6.5 Creedmoor, or if I should instead go for a different rifle with chamberings more suitable for my kind of hunting and if so what chamberings and rifles would you suggest. In my mind, there are only two good options in the sub-$500 price point: (1) The CVA Cascade, and (2) The Ruger American and preferably the Predator version. Nothing problematic, but clearly noticeable. enything under 2k. Heres a link to that rifle in .30-06. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Would I buy this rifle? I\m a big fan of your videos and expertise. Wish I discovered your content sooner and thankful for all your hard work. Jim, would love to hear some feedback on Cooper firearms if you have any input? Two shots were thrown right out of the group and the barrel was not yet even very warm. The Momentum is Franchi's hunting rifle, introduced by the Italian firm in 2018. I like the cleaner lines without the mag sticking out. Vlad is an asshole in general who needs to go away. Is there a far better option for the money? You know Beretta will not support either rifle. Id like to see how the Sauer 100 performs. Overall, I think the best three rifles under $1,000 are the Tikka T3X Lite, the Bergara B-14 Ridge, and the Weatherby Vanguard. Overall, if you forced me to pick a winner in this category, Id probably give it to the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Fnanchi is most likely the same design since they share ownership. Chambered in .308 Winchester, the author's Franchi Momentum has a 22-inch barrel with a threaded muzzle and a black synthetic stock with a recoil pad and integral sling-swivel studs. I am looking for a new rifle, and am looking at the Franchi Momentum Elite, was looking for any input by those of you that have one. Bergara is intriguing, but I cant understand why its heavier. I still think the 2020 Waypoint is just a better gun overall. I would like something under 6# for $2000 or less with a carbon wrapped barrel. Your primary con towards the Weatherby was around the cost of the company\s \boutique\ cartridges.