TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, ! There are currently no models in your cart. Its great way to compete and fair . Sure, but I won't rinse and repeat the whole uploading process if it happens though. Thanks for sharing Your experience and thoughts. 3D Model characters people woman This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character It has been sculpted and optimized for animation and game engines with a clean topology. TS has bather page rank, when someone searches the net it will come on top, simple because it is an older website. taken offline. Chat with Support 24/7 You want to put it in your store but it obviously needs some work to make it marketable. But we forgot about the buyers. Check out our picks of the best sites to download free 3D models for 3D printing, games & animation, graphic design, architecture, and more. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. or do you prefer to do business with companies you trust and feel comfortable working with while knowing you are supporting a #FairBusiness model that in the future will revert in your own direct benefit? Hi guys, thanks so much for your very valuable comments, they are much appreciated and we are very happy to work with you in order to make CGTrader the best place for 3D designers! I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. I hope someone someday will take the concept behind old cgtrader No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. http://rebloggy.com/post/art-copyright-turbosquid-infringement-kouotsu-ip-theft-kouotsu/34732573054
[Lighthouse12](http://lighthouseapp.com/ "Lighthouse12") Just uploading on turbosquid is a pain in the butt. Well, it was more than one year ago that I last intervened on this thread. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. - Forcing people to choose a proper tagging to their objects so that we don't get scanned high poly print-ready objects in the way when we tick the "low-poly" filter, Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. CGtrader staff admits to some degree to this problem (see the comment of Dalia Lasaite) and promises to redesign the homepage. Free models are posted for lots of different reasons, not just only to serve as an example to show of artist modeling skills/quality of work (sample data). Maybe some people don't want to bother about different programs compatibility, while others don't mind to spent time configuring things in different applications. So the staff there tries to work Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? Animated Camel 3D Model 13. All because of search. So i need to try to make money with my models as long as possible, means as long it is not uploaded to anywhere else. AFAIK buyers right to be refunded is protected by law. Animated Lion 3D Model 14. https://garagedoorrepairchesapeake.com/garage-door-replacement/. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time:
tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. Important only is that there buy many people. We made this limitation to protect our designers from leechers who download hundreds of free models and then try to monetize them in some other way. I still get more sales on TS, despite having adjusted all prices to compensate their extortions. Saied this couple of times in the past, leverage the difference in royalty to provide a slightly better offer over here, otherwise customers hoe have a Ts account will see no need to make one here to buy same model for same price. Yes you are right Zet! CGtrader better is : Design,User friendly,royalties etc all better . (e.g. Comment goo's like this, quote "Awesome model, converted this guy over into maya and he looks great" end quote. So it is, but it's a matter of time and CGTrader will be able to master these positions. I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. So if you think about that when we try selling just 3D models we are actually loosing a great deal of the market.
More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. They bring answers to your problems or requests quite fast and in a very convivial way. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! And even if you sell the same models on other side you can advertise them as being the cheapest here. Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? And something ells , I have seen people criticize the young inexperienced and even blame them to some point for some negative experiences over here. If I narrow to "man", it's even worse : 64 out of 128 models displayed are scanned 3d models. Hi John, you made very valid points. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. I removed the download limit until we update the protection so that buyers can download much larger quantities of free models. Advertising? Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. @tomislavveg, that is very true, but as marvimation already mentioned, CGT first have to draw those buyers to its web, otherwise there's not much use from all those benefits if there's no buyers who could reap them :]. A customer coming in from outside can view stores, search inside a store or still search the global data base. i think they both have there place . Im convinced now that when I would reactivate my Ts account I will just have a bit less sales here and get some sales over there, could be wrong but I don't care, 60% cut is ridicules and on top of that price guarantee is just total madness. On TS depends on the country you come for, you get around 30% of your earnings (this is how much you get on your account, I know it is stated 60% but they take additional 30% for US tax), here I am not shore how much you get as I just joined and did not made any sales. TurboSquid. Thanks for your feedback, it really makes sense. The Ts model does not support such thing and is not up to the task of modern time needs for this industry. As every site takes a small cut from the sales of a model. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. google3 CGTrader has the better platform from my point of view, better rates if i remember correct. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. If I am searching for a 3D model, I am not interested in 3D printing services, and vice versa. This is a totally separate "operation" that is going on under the acquisitions of CGstudio and T3DFM, which serve also as noisy cover to "wag the dog". I left the turbosquid from Diamond level .
So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites. The rumour that they can "borrow" models for check-out before buy to particularly trustworthy clients could also be true. I'm done with them. when the same type of issue occurs on CGTrader, the Staff policy is to do nothing. The items from CG and TS do not appear very far from each other in Google. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. Cgtrader really goes above and beyond with the customer service side of things. When someone uploads a scanned model for 3D printing and tags it as "low poly", the model will appear even where it shouldn't. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. I would expect those kinds of charges from a real art gallery with real world space that could sell my work for 10,000 a pop, not some virtual space that sells my work for 50 bucks. So, CGT is the best guys ! There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. 2. So then people can actually customize and make cool toys and sell them on there. Just my fifty cents. Chat with Support 24/7 Everything about it is ugly, i just sell a model on cgTrader and another model on Turbosquid, cgtrader gives me 71% and i feel ok , turbosquid gives me 40% and i feel like i get raped, besides its tedious way of uploading methods im done with those guys, i will stick with CGtrader, thanks for the information, still 60 to 40 is a big difference. It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. 2. TurboSquid be avoided guys! Brittney Money in short term does not always pay of in long run. Think about the kind of treatment you can expect from these soulless corporate hacks once they can play their monopoly game again. This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. The staff on CG Trader seem to be very active and listen to ideas from the community, so I will try to find time and post some ideas on how the problem could be solved. But I think that CheckMate was especially created to bring artists to exclusivity, rather than promote quality. In this case a collaborative action could be established to make the product more attractive. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. Also don't forget that people sell their photos and posters too. --GENERAL--. I did not know about that. That is why I like to use Apple as the example of preference. Order 3D models. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. It's sad cgtrader promote only printing models and forget about regular models. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. Personally I don' t see anything offending on human body, everyone has one but I respect that it could be offending to someone (especially kids) so it should be censured. @Supercigale, this is worrying to read, i think such things shouldn't happen. Cubebrush. I experienced this on other topics like the challenges, where CGT team took some ideas into consideration and applied some of them. Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! CGTrader has a good plateform for selling already licensed things files but not selling the licence,your trapped into owning the licence. bye for now and be well Will and Mr Data :) :]. How about the Royalty Rate??? So the wonderful conversion work/time spend of this individual could have helped him to get a complete refund, and the two others, (hoe I have send off here) would also have been helped whit a nice maya file, and I would have sold at least two more models (Everyone would benefit). what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. clients will come where is a big diversificated data base of quality models (not only printable models) and artists will come where paying clients are.
Better for who? Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. Dude, I have from 500$ a month at SGtride and i don't feed fat Turbosquid bastards. Especially if the buyer asks to change something in the configuration of models or to clarify details. Sometimes 3D model can have some errors, or it was not 100% what buyer had imagined it will be. when cgtrader change his frontpage i stop selling products bad :(. So that is why sites like Amazon are making a fortune. ", Exactly, no one knows the model better than the one who made this model. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. Most people don't care a bit about all this. Of course Matt Wisdom was disoriented and he was associated with Pixel SQUID bankruptcy. I can think up multiple scenarios to try get a grip on it but I don't actually care anymore. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). B: CGTrader needs to do SOMETHING about all the damn undercutters. I got a bunch of scanned statues sold for 3D printing, some sci-fi characters that are obviously copyright infringements because made from movie licences, and, at the best, less than 1/2 of original characters models, many of them not being displayed because of "adult content". i think modeli unique and has need to be bought depend on the buyers not the seller I want to say the following. I tried to contact the buyer several times with no response. Spider-Man (Rig) for Maya Shaders is a new section that we recently added. I would like to see similar stats from other sellers, but CGtrader has been the 3D marketplace with the higher increase in sales for us without a doubt. Of course, as CGT reputation grows, this may change in the future (CGTrader has already beaten The3Dstudio in terms of statistics, but you also have to take into account that there are certainly a very significant amount of people coming here for 3D-printing only, which decreases the statistics in terms of regular CG models). Now if this individual was for real I would have loved to contact him and ask If he would like to give me that converted file in exchange for every dollar he paid for the model. There are indeed some snags in data management and the sorting out system. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. TurboCrooks should be boycotted by artists since they are the one responsible for the situation! but outside of the fact cgtrader is 95% designers and 5% customers its way better and easier to use more professional looking and feeling. Yes, @limonadinis, I agree with you. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. 5. Then they would only find the relevant models and get to purchasing them right away. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. CGTrader. While i've heard that TS support isn't that great in practice and they always tend to exploit sellers, but impression that they're making on buyers must be really good. You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. If there is a problem they will fix it for you. The advance search option should obviously only be available for paid models so to avoid people only free loading and just finding all the free models. Renderer: Cyclse. I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. If you look around on the net on all the various forums everyone always mentions Turbosquid be it positively or negatively. Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. I left all but . CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. They have a CheckMate program which gives you a higher percentage back from selling your model. I'm suggesting a collective of store owners. 3D stock would have main subs like architectural, medical, automotive, etc). Although in the beginning that meant the loss of a big part of income (being Turbosquid the biggest 3D content reseller), after just a few adjustment months from that specific point our sales in ALL the other marketplaces started to grow up to a point where we don't miss any income from the missing Turbosquid sales anymore, while 90% of "customer problems" suddenly disappeared. But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. To me this was a sign that people know about CGt and that users have at least two accounts. If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. The same goes for student projects. @dafunk @S/C. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. Yes, CG Trader is the best now some bugs should be solved. At one hand I could think this was indeed evidence that Ts had some clients that do not know about CGt. That's just an easy question to answer 1. This is a bit OT, but although I obviously ain't a squidguild member, I always try to design objects that are "checkmate" compliant to be sure that my models are OK, and I also beta test the .OBJ version in a lot of other applications that LW to be sure that they upload without hassle) They said fraud protection is only reserved for exclusive sellers. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. the success of CGTrader (and other sites as well) contributed to that. You just have to check the Sellers forum at Turbosquid to see plenty of complaints about all sorts of abusive policies. I dare to bed that those hoe left CGtrader a year ago to sign some exclusive contract to get the money a little bit faster will regret that decision rely badly next year. I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. In my country you have to be adult to do bussines and legal stuff. I didn't checked it for a while (around a year) but comparatively Cgtrader has a much more streamlined upload system compared to Turbosquid's. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. What I mean is CGt isn't rely making products, it is offering a sales platform and leaves the problem salving involving product issues (between sellers and buyers) to the product developers themselves (in theory) and in doing so minimizing/reducing overhead in sales. I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. I read here on the forum can't remember if it was Iterate CGI or someone else said that CGTrader will soon sell on Amazon and I can't wait for it to happen!! To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Does anyone sale something on Cgtrader?where are customers. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. For me is more offending that kids are able to sell models here. People may think that having that option makes it more likely for sellers to see their work by placing their models in the incorrect category but actually that just irritates buyers who may just go elsewhere to buy. Sales dropped to almost nothing. I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. 60% is an insult. A possible solution for potential buyers looking to sample the work of sellers, would be for sellers to have their free sample models at a low minimal price instead of free. Like time spent on searching models or ability to get profesional support 24/7. - Are you interested in just some quick cash grabs and extras here and there while you can, or would you like to be able to contribute to a fair market where you can make a living out of your passion? former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). I like, CG Trader is ascent. Some points for and against. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. They often would ask me to just send them a model through email and pay me through paypal like in the old days. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. Turbosquid.com4. ! Got my model (https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/cabinet/handles-vol-01-pbr) But this is perhaps the only plus turbosquid. Fact is and I have been saying it for years is that there is a super limited amount of people who care about 3D. When a buyer leaves a bad rating for a lame reason , TS investigate and contact the buyer and if he doesn't give a serious explanation, When I started on cgtrader I had more sales than on TS. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. But they must realise that attracting more buyers only through more aggresive marketing is not enough. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. They provide clients with pretty much everything they could possibly want at reasonable prices and have a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all their items. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! ;), My thoughts exactly.. 3d Printing could be very profitable (for CG Trader, and the modelers) In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. Do not forget to check out rigged vehicles, guns and other objects, including environments, in addition to rigged characters to increase the control and interactivity you can achieve in your project. On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. In this case the fastest support can not help. Site itself must have significant changes to make it more attractive and more convenient to buyers, especially big buyers. There are currently no models in your cart. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. Next we would have the sales/customers feedback factor coming in to sort out the stores ranking. CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". Having said that creating models of that high end quality is quite the burden on 3D modelers who just do it as a hobby or work 3D part time so a lot of artists are moving away from TS because they can't sell their regular models on there anymore. So many more buyers would actually have a look at what they have because sometimes you want to buy a special toy If you are a buyer you don't have a lot of time to find what you want especially if you are buying on behalf of your company.
Another thing that drove me crazy about Turbosquid was how you couldn't promote any of your social media and it made it very difficult to get your clients from let's say Facebook and Twitter to notice your artwork. I think I do a decent job at earning my keep.. And yes, it this is like if shapeways started doing cg. Maybe CG Trader should consider a large add-on to the site, where the customers can click a link, and go to a whole new site (owned by cg trader) that does sells strictly 3d printable models :) Just an idea :). Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. With only a few days on CG trader, i can already see it is miles ahead of turbosquid. If a company like Disney or NASA buys a model at TS, they advertise it as "Turbosquid customers buying Turbosquid models". - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! For small buyers this is likely the case, but serious corporate buyers may have other priorities atop of lowest price. It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. - Once in a while, alert all designers that a cleaning operation will be made, and wipe out objects that are of a too bad quality or copyright infringements.